The Crookes’s Neck

CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS – eBay

The Crookes’s Neck

Crookes’s Invigorating Aromatic Vegetable Stomach Bitters

07 June 2012 (R•120314)

Apple-Touch-IconAPosted on eBay now you will see a wonderful example of a Crookes’s Stomach Bitters from New Orleans. The seller, who has provided some nice pictures, is turnitup38 with a 100% rating. This a a favorite bottle of mine because of the large bulbous form in the neck. It is almost like the bottle is posturing or in mating season. I also really like the Crookes’s name.

The Carlyn Ring and W.C. Ham listing in Bitters Bottles is as follows:

C 253  CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS, Circa 1860 – 1865
// s // H. // M. CROOKES’S / STOMACH BITTERS //
10 1/8 x 3 1/2 (6)
Round cream-top style neck, Olive green, LTC, Applied mouth, Rare
Initial H is only letter on other side of mold seam and is unlike other letters in size or placement.

Crookes’s Stomach Bitters antique bottle New Orleans La. Rare ! NO RESERVE

CROOKES S STOMACH BITTERS Ring and Ham C-252. 10 1/4 inches tall, olive-green with a hint of amber. This bottle is listed as extremely rare, and that crooke was a distiller in New Orleans from 1856-65. I found listings from Harmer Rooke in 1991 for $2,750, and Charles G. Moore in 1996 for $1,980 in my Browns auction price guide. Pretty desirable. the condition is great, no damage, chips, or cracks. there is the slightest fine wear here and there on the bottle but I cannot find an actual scratch. mint condition. eye-catching cream top style neck. Other bottles shown for color comparison only and not included in auction.

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Humorous Crookes Stomach Bitters Advertisement – New Orleans Daily Crescent, March 04, 1861

Crookes’s Invigorating Aromatic Vegetable Stomach Bitters was advertised in New Orleans and Shreveport, Louisiana between 1860 and 1862 as “The Great Medical Drink of the Ages.” It was said to be prepared from Aromatic Herb Bitters under the “Auspices of an Eminent Physician”. There is a reference in advertisements that indicates that a H.M. (Hugh M. ) Crookes had a Chemical Laboratory on West Broadway in New York City in February 1860. Later that year, the bitters was being advertised by presumably, James Crookes who was a merchant in New Orleans. Could be father and son. The company name was Crookes & Company and they were Sole Proprietors of the product addressing at a warehouse at 110 Tchoupitoulas street. I see some other evidence that James Crookes was a Private in Company G in the 20th Louisiana Infantry. He enlisted on December 21st, 1861 at Camp Lewis. He made Roll for January and February 1862 and was transferred from Company E on February 18th, 1862. He made Roll for March and April of 1862 and then was killed in action at Shiloh. He father also enlisted in New Orleans but survives the war and resided in New Orleans.

There is a Branch, Crookes & Company who made saws in the 1860s and 1870s in New Orleans. Working on that relationship.

CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS – eBay

CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS – eBay

CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS – eBay

CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS – eBay

CROOKES’S STOMACH BITTERS – Meyer Collection

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Crookes’s Invigorating Aromatic Vegetable Stomach Bitters advertisement – The Times Picayune (New Orleans), Sunday, December 2, 1860

Advertisement from The Daily True Delta, Wednesday, November 11, 1860

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Crookes’s Invigorating Aromatic Vegetable Stomach Bitters advertisement – Shreveport Daily News (Shreveport, Louisiana), July 23, 1861

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1827: James Crooke born in Belfast, Ireland about 1827.

1859: James Crooke, New York City

1860: H. M. Crookes, Chemical Laboratory, West Broadway, advertisement references February 6, 1860.

1860: James Crooke, merchant, New Orleans Ward 8 (wife Mary, children, Thomas, Charles, Ellen, William – 1860 United States Federal Census

1860: Crooke & Company, Sole Proprietor, Crookes’s Invigorating Aromatic Vegetable Stomach Bitters advertisements, Warehouse, 110 Tchoupitoulas street – The Times Picayune (New Orleans) November and December 1860 (see example above)

1861: James Crookes, Conscripts, Louisiana, P – Z AND French Co. of St. James, Militia AND Capt. Herrick’s Co. (Orleans Blues)

Crooks, James (also Crookes, James), Pvt. Co. G. 20th La. Infty. En. Dec. 21st, 1861, Camp Lewis. Roll for Jan. and Feb., 1862, Present. Transfd. from Co. E. Feb. 18th, 1862. Roll for March and April, 1862, Killed in action at Shiloh.

1861: H.M. Crooks, Antoine n. Annette – New Orleans City Direcrtory

1862: Crookes, H. M., Private Company H. Confederate Guards Regiment, Louisiana Militia. Enlisted March 8th, 1862, New Orleans, Louisiana Roll to April 30th, 1862, Absent on sick furlough.

1861-1867: Branch, Crookes & Company, saws (see advertisement below) – New Orleans City Directory

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Branch, Crookes & Co., Saws advertisement – 1866 New Orleans City Directory

1869: Mary Crookes, widow (this is James Crookes wife) – New Orleans City Directory

1866-1870: H. M. Crookes (also Crooks), res 296 St. Charles – New Orleans City Directory

1876: Death Hugh M. Crookes on June 19, 1876

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Glass Cane Whimsies

Glass canes and other “whimsies” can be seen at the Terwilliger House in the Village of Ellenville. Photo by Carol Nelson Falcone. Courtesy of Ellenville Public Library and Musuem.

In my continued effort to stay ahead of the curve and to look at other examples of Glasshouse Whimsies or End of the Day Glass, I developed this post and dedicate it to a rather unique whimsy and that is the glass cane, or as I have heard it also referred to, the Parade Stick or Baton.

Glass House Whimsies are non-production glass items made by the glass workers on their own time, possibly for their own use and enjoyment, or to demonstrate their ability with glass, or as a special presentation item.

I usually do not see many cane examples at shows or in my travels but I do remember seeing some at my fathers house in Delaware when visiting as a child. Usually placed in a corner and waiting for someone to walk over and ask, what the object was? I also imagine that these pieces are quite delicate and just waiting to be broken. Here are a few pictures and images I have found online. As usual, I ask for other cane examples for consideration in this picture gallery.

A collection of glass canes and whimsies – Antique Trader

Read more: Toppin’ it off with a few Glasshouse Hat Whimsies

Read More: Glasshouse Turtle Whimsies


Glass Cane Gallery

Glass whimsies, including corkscrew style cane, glass chain, candy cane style cane, cane with brown streak running down centre, c. 1906 – 1908, Manitoba Glassworks – Manitoba Museum of Art

Very rare postcard showing a glass gaffers and his glass cane whimsy along with a award of some sort. You just don`t find cards like this ever! Judging from the cane I’d say its from the midwest. – Old South Jersey Glass and Antiques

Berkshire Glass Works cane from 1878. It’s filled with the pure quartzite sand they were so proud of. It was 99.98% pure, the purest in the world. – Charles Flint

Berkshire Glass Works cane from 1878 – Charles Flint

We bought them as a lot at an Estate sale here in Wa. – Tami Barber

Group of eleven Art Glass Cane Whimsies or Parade Batons comprising a colorless and amber glass example with twisted shaft and ball handle, two pale green examples with square shafts and twisted terminals, aqua example with square shaft and twisted handle, colorless glass example with a single cobalt cane, square shaft and twisted terminal and six colorless glass examples decorated with turquoise, opaque white and maroon swirls. Height of tallest 44 1/2 inches. – Live Auctioneers

Two clear glass whimsy or parade canes – Dan Ripley’s Antique Helper

Glass whimsy cane – GoAntiques

Band master’s cane whimsey, Montreal, c 1885, Delormier Glass Works – Canada Museum of Civilization

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Why are glass balls on Early American Glass pieces?

I will be the first to tell you, I am out of my area of specialization in many cases when I post about glass but still very willing to learn from some of the glass authorities who continually post great pieces of Early American Glass on various web sites and facebook. My question here is…

Why are glass balls on Early American Glass pieces?

I suspect it is primarily aesthetic, in that the forms of the combined pieces are pleasing to the eye. For practical reasons, the balls may have protected the contents from insects or spoiling. In many cases there are Witch Balls that were set atop a vase or pitcher because where else can you lay a glass ball without worrying about it rolling off a table?

Read more: Witch Balls – Warding Off Evil Spirits

Couple new England storage jars – Daniel Baldwin

Woody Douglas still-life

Here is some later freeblown bottleglass circa 1840-1860. The one on the left is amber with a yellow tone and is thought to be NH or Ct., the middle piece is very thick glass in red amber. The last, also very thick, olive green. As you can see the feet on the left and center pieces have been drawn out of the original gather of glass as opposed to being formed and applied separately. This allowed the blower to form the piece without the help of a skilled assistant. These were made when bottle houses had primarily moved to hinge molds to blow bottles as opposed to the skilled manipulation it took to blow say a chestnut or pattern molded flask. Although they lack the grace and artistry of the earlier freeblown they have a funky quality I like. – Woody Douglas

Some early pieces – Rick Ciralli

Greenwich Show, three pitchers and a ball – picture Noel Thomas

A couple of tall sided bowls with heavy folded over rims… similar dip molds, one example flared out. – Michael George

Here is a cool pair….Daniel Baldwin (Lily pad pitcher on left)

gutsy pitcher, possibly Redford or redwood… Just under 9″ tall – Daniel Baldwin

Hat Whimsey and Glass Ball – Rick Ciralli (ex: Daniel Baldwin)

Aqua pitcher with applied rigaree. Likely a Jersey piece. Ex: Kearin. This little guy has so much going on! – Michael George

My run of jars with balls! Awful pic, my apologies… – Rick Ciralli

Pair of South Jersey pitchers and witch balls, ca. 1850, sold for $28,080. (Pook & Pook inc.)

Witch ball used to cap and seal a glass pitcher

Witch Balls and Stands offered by Jeff and Holly Noordsy

Huckleberry Food Jar with Witch Ball Circa 1860’s. Olive Green. Size: 11″ high x 5″ dia.

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Freeblown Witch Ball And Stand, probably a South Jersey glasshouse, New Jersey, 1850-1860. A hollow ball on a trumpet form base, colorless with profuse white pulled loopings, sheared rim – pontil scar, overall ht. 11 3/8 inches. Fine early decorative freeblown American glass. – Heckler Auction 102

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Photographs of People Drinking

Photographs of People Drinking

PART I of a Series

03 June 2012

Apple-Touch-IconAI wanted to create a gallery of my favorite vintage drinking pictures. Some are in my collection. If you have any candidates for inclusion, please forward. Thanks.

Drinking Gallery

Two men drinking and playing cards with a TURNER BROS tintype

Tintype of Drinking “Buddies,” – Cowan’s Auctions

A Drink and a Good Cigar Tintype – Heritage Auctions

Miners drinking – Colorado Historical Society

Maj. H.H. Humphrey and others – Library of Congress

Original antique Carte de Visite By “Traveling Artists” Peter & Kresge (probably from Pennsylvania) Handsome Young Man in Uniform (Civil War?) with Fish Bottle

Men gathered for a drink in the Road House Saloon, Bluff City, Alaska – ca. 1906

Men posing with beer postcard

Bealeton, Va. Noncommissioned officers’ mess of Co. D, 93d New York Infantry – Library of Congress

Framed Old Continental Whiskey photograph

Three unidentified soldiers playing cards, smoking, and drinking in front of American flag – Library of Congress

Hutchinson Women

Three men drinking wearing hats tintype

Cowboys drinking in a saloon bar

Lad enjoying a frosty mug of Drake’s Plantation Bitters

Fred D. Follett Bottled Milk

Saloon pose – location unknown

Orient Saloon – Bisbee, Arizona

Civil War table pose

Farmer and ex-cowboy drinking beer in North Platte, Nebraska, saloon ca. 1938

Tintype: Men Drinking Liquor

Unknown men in unknown location. They appear to be drinking beer and all are wearing medals of some type. – Brodhead Historical Society

Drinking and Smoking Tintype

Drinking, smoking & poker. 3 things that do go well together!

Love this picture…probably during prohibition. Maybe drinking Atlas Beer – Daffys Landing Antiques

A Quiet Sunday at Scotia – The photo was taken in front of a bunkhouse at the company town of Scotia just south of Eureka, in Humboldt County, Ca. Scotia was big redwood lumber company town in the 1800′s. The town still exists but not as a company town. You can see the bunkhouse number on the wall behind the men and you can see hobnails on the bottom of the boots on one of the men playing cards. – photo Martin Ludtke

Ca. 1870 Tintype – Man w/Wine Bottle & Historical Union Clasped Hands Flask – Here is a pretty cool item that ended recently on eBay that was similar to the fish bitters picture. – Brandon Smith

Photographs of People Drinking – Part I

Photographs and Images of People Drinking – Part II

Photographs and Images of People Drinking – Part III

Photographs and Images of People Drinking – Part IV (Brewing)

Photographs and Images of People Drinking – Part V

Photographs and Images of People Drinking – Part VI

Possibly the Earliest Photograph of People Drinking Beer – Part VII

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Crown Jewels of the Wire focuses on Youth

I have a special place in my heart that fuels my glass addiction and passion. Before I even started collecting Bitters bottles, Elizabeth and I met a couple at an insulator show in Houston, probably in the mid 1990’s. I really did not know a thing, except that I loved old glass and insulators were glass. I bought insulators from this couple at each show and always looked forward to seeing them, talking and adding to my small collection. They even invited us to their house to see their collection. We were amazed, stunned and realized we were in the presence of something special. This couple was Marilyn and Bill Albers. We were with royalty in the insulator world. I will even go as far as saying this influenced my collecting as I specialize in depth and color runs.

Eli got a nice collection from Howard and Linda Banks with the Insulators for Kids program!!

Anyway, I did a post yesterday on Insulators and came across some simply great pictures and stories (read post: Insulator Hunters). One picture stood out and it was a picture of 9-year old Eli Herron of Toccoa, Georgia (see above). This picture says it all and represents the future and where we are going, and that is with our youth. Another picture of young Eli (see below) is in the latest issue of Crown Jewels of the Wire. This reminded me of when my granddaughter Adriana’s picture (see below) was posted on Reggie Lynch’s newsletter in 2005. I was so proud and excited (so I am doing it again Ha!).

We congratulate Eli and his dad Mike Herron. Eli, I am putting your pictures up again because they are so special. I am also promoting Crown Jewels of the Wire here and saluting our friends that collect insulators for focusing on youth.

9-year-old Eli Herron of Toccoa, Georgia shows off the insulators he received from Crown Jewels of the Wire and their donors

Girl power: Adriana Aliciana (grandaughter of Ferdinand Meyer), Joan Cabaniss, and Joanne Scaturro. - Southeast Bottle Club - March/April 2005 newsletter (Poison Bottle Collectors)

Crown Jewels of the Wire is dedicated to the collectors of historic glass and porcelain insulators used by telegraph, telephone and electric power utilities. Insulators are the “crown jewels of the Wire.”

What Are Insulators? “Insulators? You mean those glass things on the top of telephone poles? I must have shot at hundreds of those things when I was a kid!” Insulator collectors hear that a lot, as we attempt to explain just what it is that we collect. Hearing it usually makes us cringe, wondering just what rare treasure that person shot off the crossarm those many years ago.

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Insulator Hunters

I put together a post earlier today called Privy Digging – The Hole Story which included some great pictures of holes and digs. These diggers are going to some major depths including one hole at 60 feet! After looking underground, it seemed fun to visit Insulator Hunters and see what these folks have been UP to as of late. Amazing to see some of the pictures of insulators they are finding, both on the ground and high in the air.

Insulator Hunters is an open group and a place to post pictures and comments of insulator hunts and finds on facebook.

Read more: Telegraph & Telephone Poles carrying some Beautiful Glass

Read more: A Pole Full of Beehives

Read more: Dennis Bray’s EC&M Insulators

FUN!!! - Michael W. Spadafora

My FIRST wild Hemi-19! - Matt Aker

Photo Andrew Mika

A gem found in Colombia lately I think is one of the last of this species from extinction. beautiful truth. - Gustavo Parra Nicholls

Here is one of my better recent finds. A friend and I found this last spring after walking the length of a football field. My father and I came back 2 months later and probably walked over twenty miles without finding anything. It was a very lucky day. - Daron Nelson

Loaded these on my lawn mower trailer when they were dismanteling lines a few yrs ago. They salvaged poles and wire, but left alot of crossarms with the glass esp in rough country. The crew wasnt too concerned about giving them too me. - Jimmy Zagorsky

An olive green Star 162, a couple yellow green Star 162s and a CREB 145. - Justin Sharick

Here is that rare milky 147 spiral groove. - Chris McClelland

Porcelain Heaven - Szabadvezetéki Szigetelők Magángyűjteménye (Zoltan)

Photo - Szabadvezetéki Szigetelők Magángyűjteménye (Zoltan)

This is an olive amber CD 133 Brookfield that I found here in PA. - Justin Sharick

Saw word flat heads, then it occured to me most of my Hemingray Co petticoats are flatheads found on old abandoned RR telegraph. - Jimmy Zigorsky

1870 Patent CREB found along the old GA. RR. - Michael Green

This has to be one of the most impressive and beautiful pics of an insulator I have ever seen - Red Guerre

Just laying around like a aluminum can! Yea rr really cares about insulators! Wouldn't of found this one at home watching tv! - Jimmy Zagorsky

Eli got a nice collection from Howard and Linda Banks with the Insulators for Kids program!! - Mike Herron

Garden Sculpture - Mike Holzwarth

CSX pole line demo. - Jason Stevens

Who can forget the Tom Herron (may dad) finds back in 2009 at a Flea Market in North Carolina? - Mike Heron

This is what a typical pole looked like along the old Georgia Railroad line. - Michael Green

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Privy Digging – The Hole Story

The purpose of privy digging is the salvage of antique bottles and everyday household artifacts from the past.

Removing rocks, brickbats and other debris in a very large urban privy (ca.1855).

Privy Digging – The Hole Story

02 June 2012

Privy digging is the process of locating and investigating the contents of defunct outhouse vaults. The purpose of privy digging is the salvage of antique bottles and everyday household artifacts from the past. Privy digging is a form of historical digging and is often conducted on private residential properties. Construction sites and major developments around older areas of towns and cities are also likely places to look for evidence of privies. Historical contractors (privy diggers who enter into contracts enabling them to investigate vaults on commercial or industrial properties) are also engaging in privy digging. Privies are also called pits, holes, and chambers. In some locations, like New York City, vaults are sometimes referred to as “wells”, due to their appearance and oftentimes considerable depth. In these instances well digging is synonymous with privy digging.

Flaschenjager – Bottle Hunter

Academic Controversies

There are controversies regarding who should be permitted to investigate private residential privies and the historical significance of what is found in them. From a conventional academic perspective, it is assumed that all privies contain vital and unique information which cannot be found elsewhere and that a costly forensic approach is required. Privy diggers who are not professional archaeologists are labeled “looters”, even while working on sites which are in the process of being destroyed or have already been examined and worked by archaeologists. While both parties are engaging in similar activities, each is confronted with very different logistics, constraints, and unique opportunities for genuine discovery.

Academics responding to the threat of privy digging, dump digging, metal detecting, and so on have helped create laws protecting objects of a certain age, usually only 50-100 years old, from exploitation by opportunistic looters and other thieves that disturb historic context in pursuit of treasure. Laws intended to safeguard bona fide national and cultural treasures are applied to any item found while digging. Millions of discoveries dating to the mid 19th century (the prime period for privy digging), is presently stored in the backrooms and basements of universities, museums, historical societies, libraries and many other out of the way places where it is protected from the selfish interests of curiosity seekers, antique dealers and grave robbers. The same sort of controversy that surrounds privy digging is also associated with museums and their collections.

Privies

Privies can be constructed of stone, brick, or wood and vary considerably from place to place. Some privy vaults are less than 2 feet deep and others are more than 25 feet. They can be as narrow as 2 feet or as wide as 10 feet, particularly in urban settings where a large privy shed with multiple doors and inner compartments once stood. Some vaults are cylindrical, these are usually made of stone or brick. Though there are cylindrical privies that are actual wooden barrels placed in the ground. Others are rectangular and commonly made of stone, brick, or wood. Many shallower rectangular vaults were only wood-lined.

Saturdays dig in Philly. Dug a 20 foot brickliner, it was a very wet pit. It did have about 5 foot use layer of 1860’s -1880s stuff. – Chris Rowell

Many privies were cleaned out periodically. This routine process addressed the growing concern for foul odors and airborne illnesses which was prevalent at the time. Dipping also provided some of the necessary organic material for the fertilizer industry. Around the time that modern plumbing was installed, many were cleaned out and backfilled with newer material. These dipped vaults do not have an undisturbed night soil layer and the probability of one containing anything of major archaeological importance is extremely low. The article Into the Night Soil addresses the familiar scenario from a career digger’s perspective.

Sites

Most privies are located behind the building or buildings which they served. In major urban areas, such as older cities on the east coast, they are commonly found in the rear section of the residential lot and their size will vary considerably from place to place . (see Making It Work; Through Bottles, Darkly, Glimpses of the Past, The New York Times). Old fire insurance maps, such as Sanborn, indicate that some properties were several lots wide and sometimes had two or more houses within the same boundary line. In these instances only one privy vault may exist for all the houses being considered or one may exist for each. In other cases structures apparently had no outlying property at all. It is assumed that these particular vaults were incorporated into a neighboring lot or perhaps placed within the structure itself somewhere, possibly the basement. Some insurance maps show outbuildings and sheds, and occasionally privy outlines too. For example, 19th century insurance maps for New York City generally do not have markings indicating privy placements and some for New Jersey do. However, when researching the latter, privy diggers find no evidence that a privy ever existed where the map outline indicates one should be.

Excavating a small wood-lined privy located behind a residence which was built around 1876.

Some privy diggers also research excavation sites where old houses and other buildings, such as factories, saloons, and hotels once were. The use of heavy machinery can lead to indications of stone or brick structures and other subterranean anomalies being unearthed. This in turn can lead to discoveries of privies, cisterns, root cellars, and trash pits. Managers and owners of construction sites may not accommodate privy diggers on their missions to salvage on these sites. Some of them are enthusiasts themselves and agreements can be formed allowing diggers to search for privy vaults and landfill deposits. Some historical diggers focus exclusively on these kinds of sites and over time develop good relations with various development companies. Permission to salvage on these sites can lead to remarkable discoveries with relatively little physical effort but this is the exception to the rule.

Locating the Privy Vault

When a property is determined to be old enough to have had an outhouse somewhere within its original boundaries, probing and test digging are the common methods for finding it. The basic probe is made of spring steel and between 4’ and 6’ feet in length. Many variations exist and each locale being probed has its own peculiarities regarding which equipment and what techniques should be applied. Adept privy diggers develop considerable skill interpreting the faint residues which come up on the end of a probe and the subtle noise variations encountered while sliding it in and out of the ground.

Investigating a barren wood-lined privy (ca. 1840).

Test digging involves making a small hole, and going down a few feet, to determine that a probe reading is accurate. Once something other than dirt and rocks are being encountered and man-made objects are buried deeply in a particular spot, the outline of the privy is carefully excavated. This can take hours or days depending on its size and the materials being dug through. Dug dirt or “fluff” as it is sometimes called, is systematically removed from the hole by shoveling. Deeper holes require a rope and bucket setup and sometimes a tripod mechanism to assist with the removal of material.

Privy Maintenance and Garbage Disposal

Due to extreme odors and overfilling, a high percentage of privy vaults were cleaned out, to varying levels, while still in use. This is commonly referred to as “dipping” among privy diggers. The amount of dipping that occurred, how far down a well material was cleared and how frequently it was cleared, varied from privy to privy. After plumbing was installed at the residence there was a final cleaning, which had a tendency of removing everything down to the deepest level of the vault. Even at depths reaching 30 feet or more, some of the deepest vaults known to exist, many were cleaned to the base. Alternatively, a small percentage of shallow vaults extending down about 3 feet or less have contained noteworthy bottles, numerous fragments of dinner plates, cups, bowls, pitchers, tobacco pipes, clam and oyster shells, food bones and even sparse night soil pockets around the edges.

Near the bottom of a brick-lined urban privy awaiting demolition (ca. 1855). During the salvage dig excavators encountered an array of antique bottles and other interesting items which were manufactured in the 1850s, 1860s and 1870s.

During the mid 19th century operators connected to the booming waste-generated fertilizer (night soil) business circulated cities and towns emptying vaults. In rural areas where vaults are usually much smaller and shallower farmers and other property owners often conducted this task themselves. Despite lying in human waste and other decaying refuse for years, many recyclable bottles of the time, and other reusable items, were retrieved during the dipping process. Genuine garbage would be taken to landfills and other suitable locations and dumped, along with a never ending supply of stove and fireplace ashes.

The evidence suggests that not all dippers were equally concerned with being meticulous and periodically dozens of bottles, and even some night soil, can still be found while privy digging. The many out of place bottles sometimes discovered in clusters near the top or bottom of a dipped out vault are referred to by diggers as “kick-backs”, or “throw-ins”, and were left intentionally by the workers who cleaned out the privy.

Throughout the decades of the middle and late 19th century, the year’s diggers tend to focus on due to rapid changes in bottle manufacturing, privies were only incidental or sporadic dumping spots for bottles, kitchen garbage and other refuse. Some privies were never used for that purpose at all and for practical reasons only a very small percentage of a household’s total trash could ever be distributed there. Due to the enormous quantities of everyday garbage being produced by this time in history, not too mention the hundreds of millions of bottles sold each year in the United States alone, the vaults would have filled up very quickly requiring constant maintenance instead of being emptied just every so often. Moreover, it was generally acceptable to dump wreaking trash just about anywhere then without worrying about legal consequences. Preferred places were lowland areas near the edges of towns and cities, down embankments and into ravines, rivers, streams, lakes, ponds, bogs, shorelines, backyard burning pits and other locales. For example, New York City sent scows brimming with garbage out into the harbor everyday where very cheap labor shoveled it directly into the water without a second thought. This process went on for centuries and an endless supply of collectable items, antiques and archaeological information alike remain in these dumping places to this day.

A sterile mixture of dirt, sand, rocks, ashes, brick bats and other worthless debris manufactured around 1880-1920 was used to backfill privies once plumbing was installed at a particular address. With or without night soil deposits remaining down below there is no longer any offensive odor.

Items Recovered

Privy digging is directly linked to antique bottle collecting. Glass or clay bottles are the most likely items to be found in an average 19th century privy. Yet, more often than not they are found prohibitively damaged. This may be due to the large number of brickbats and stones which are found at all levels of the privy. Excavators have theorized that at least some of them were thrown in with the intention of crushing down the contents of the vault, so it could be used longer without needing to be cleaned. The high percentage of broken items is one reason why privy digging is one of the most unpredictable and arduous methods of attempting to form a bottle collection.

I can not identify this picture which looks to be from a Western Display at a bottle show. Crazy

Pontiled medicine bottles, ink bottles, beer and soda bottles, and many others particularly those manufactured between the 1830s-1860s are among the most sought after and can sell for thousands of dollars each. However, in reality an average pontiled find discovered while privy digging is worth less than twenty dollars. Even these are not discovered consistently in most locations. Not unlike old stamps and coins invariably they are required to be in mint or very good condition to be sufficiently interesting to a serious bottle collector. An enormous quantity of rare bottles are known to exist in private collections, museums, museum and university basements, and elsewhere but these prime examples are seldom found on average privy digs. In fact a high percentage of all valuable bottles and related containers were never buried in privies, dumps or elsewhere; these are known as “attic” bottles among privy diggers and bottle collectors.

“Our flask was recovered from a privy in the Historic District in downtown Savannah. The privy dated to about 1820 and was in use until around 1900. The bottle was recovered from a “cleanout” pit about 8 feet deep adjacent to the privy. The privy was cleaned out and rebuilt after 1865”

There are exceptions and over time some groups of regularly active diggers, operating in good locations, will encounter thousands of antique bottles and other interesting things. The vast majority of items will be very common examples of nominal value and not very useful to serious collectors, historians, or archaeologists.

Not unlike dump diggers privy diggers may also encounter miscellaneous tableware (banded ware, redware, mocha, and other slipwares), stoneware, occasionally clay pipes, doll parts, tea set pieces, marbles, buttons, chamber pots, decorative porcelain pot lids and bases used for pomades and skin creams, bone or ivory toothbrush handles, hard-rubber combs and hair picks, ambrotypes, and other objects which are usually broken or damaged.

Most of these items were valueless and intentionally discarded into the privy, others fell through the opening in the outhouse seat, and some were lost at the hands of small children. In each instance the insides of active vaults were very caustic environments, the highly toxic ingredients causing most things to break down and rot very quickly.

Related Topics and History

Privy diggers, along with dump diggers and other historical diggers (The Manhattan Well Diggers),  (The Memphis Diggers),  (Scott’s Privy Page) are enthusiastic about making their own discoveries and will get sufficiently dirty as a result. Though there are some exceptions this work is usually done by hand and requires a remarkable degree of persistence and tenacity. Career level diggers are obsessive by nature, sometimes achieving considerable skill with the various forms of privy digging techniques available. Some privy diggers also use a metal detector to pinpoint old coins and other easy to miss metal objects. Some privy diggers are metal detectorists and some metal detectorists are also privy diggers, dump diggers and so on. However, each designation is a specific subject on its own.

Excavating a large stone-lined urban privy during a major property renovation (ca. 1851).

Privy digging has things in common with dump digging and to some degree treasure hunting and garbology but is none of these exclusively as it involves salvaging the contents of defunct privies more than anything else. Privy digging and dump digging are equally concerned with antique bottles and related items. Though many exceptions exist in most instances even the oldest dump-bottles are not as old as privy bottles can be. Dumps are commonly associated with bottles and trash manufactured between the 1880s-1920s. This was a time when everyday bottles were being mass produced annually by the hundreds of millions. They were reused less and often thrown away rather than recycled due to their relatively inexpensive production costs.

Many bottles were still being mouth-blown and their lips formed by assorted tooling devices as late as 1915-20. The patent for the first fully automatic bottle machine, the Owens Automatic Bottle Machine, was not issued until 1903. And by 1906 it was swiftly replacing the old method at glasshouses nationwide.[11] Early examples of machine made bottles manufactured between about 1906 and 1915 often resemble their predecessors in shape and color and can be nominally valuable for that reason. Whether found in privies or dumps late period mouth-blown bottles manufactured between about 1880-1915 have a lesser amount of serious collectable potential depending on rarity, condition and color. Dug bottles manufactured between 1880 and 1915 have sold for hundreds or even thousands of dollars but statistically this is very rare.

Although privy diggers usually attempt to focus on the contents of vaults built before the Civil War, these too can also contain bottles made as late as the 1920s or later up near the top. Depending on when a vault went into permanent disuse it could contain bottles and debris deposited as late as the second half of the 20th century. According to a 1950 census 50 million homes reported no indoor plumbing. In 1990 more than 4 million old style privies were still in use coast to coast.[12] No matter what is encountered near the top assuming a given vault was active in 1850 its potential for older bottles lying at a lower section has a consistently strong draw for serious privy diggers.

Whether mold blown or free blown (both forms of mouth-blowing and considered hand made), most bottles produced before 1860-65 have a distinct scar on their base. This mark is the result of removing the pontil rod. Something which was temporarily fused to the base in order to handle them effectively while they were still exceedingly hot, as their necks and lips were being tooled at the glassworks..[13] The decades just prior to the absence of pontil rods from bottle-glass making were a time when endless variations pertaining to shape, size, style, color and embossing were being produced regularly in an unprecedented quantity. Some of the most interesting bottles were manufactured during this time; 1830s-1860s. Even after the pontil rod was replaced by assorted clamping mechanisms known as “snap cases”, many bottles were still being created in the same interesting molds and sold in huge quantities annually. These are known as smooth base bottles and are sometimes found in privies which were in use after the 1860s and as late as the 1880s. Visually, the difference between an early smooth base and a pontiled example of exactly the same bottle is insignificant but to a collector it often means everything. Rare early smooth base bottles can occasionally be as valuable as rare pontiled bottles but statistically they are unlikely to be discovered with any regularity on average privy digs. [Source Wikipedia]

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Read more: Another Baltimore Digging Story from Chris Rowell

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Digging 60, is that digging when you are 60 years old (I’m heading in that direction but thats not what it means), is that digging 60 privies (well that would make sense as we are digging several every week but that’s not it), OK it is digging a 60 FOOT PRIVY!! (or a well that was used for various purposes but had lots of bottles in it)…. Jeff Mihalik (Note: Read the full story in the next issue of the FOHBC Bottles and Extras)

God damn rain! – Mike Singleton

Nic Meyer & his Fiance – Nic Meyer

Another Baltimore Digging Story – Chris Rowell

A rare 2 seater probably a his and hers privy found attached to a house in cape, it appears the privy and house burned…up. in maine privy`s are hard to come by probably due to the rocky coast and ground alot of times they are attached to the house or in the ell or attached barn, the reason why alot of maine diggers have a hard time finding them is cause alot of houses used privys with drip trays, they would toss hay on top when the tray got full they would dump it in a open pit in the yard along with household trash, i`ve found way more trash pits then privies they do exsist and are generally 5 feet or less, this one only had about 2 feet in the bottom and produced some good stuff including this berry or sauce bottle im guessing….the reason for the locations of the privies would`ve been due to extreme cold… just what i`ve learned from permissions me and my friend has done. – John Nicholson

We had to dig the roots out to move the stump anyway for a footing…when I saw a slight sign of seeds that was it, let no hole go undug! That’s somewhere around 15 in a row without a decent bottle in it… I’m in a bad spell right now… why not wait until the stump was removed to dig? We didnt have the chainsaw on us and my bud took off for a bit and I had an hour to kill… – Matthew Tigue Levanti

I had invited my buddy Mike up from down Cinci way a few weekends ago and he had to cancel. Now he was ready to dig and the “feels like 100 degrees forecast” day was begun early so as not to roast so much. Dug a nice loaded stone liner behind an 1855 duplex. It was in the center of the small back yard split down the middle by a brick wall that was arched and only four feet deep, unfortunately we barely got into the 1800’s. I did get a few Dayton crowntop sodas that were new for the collection and a “The Ball Mason’s Patent 1858” fruit jar. – Steven Greene

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The Charles & Jane Aprill Blue Gallery

The Charles & Jane Aprill Blue Gallery

01 June 2012 (R•030817)

Apple-Touch-IconAYou can be sure of two things when you come across a picture from the collection of Charles and Jane Aprill from New Orleans. The first is that the glass piece will be extrtaordinary. The second, it will most likely be blue. Here are a few pictures I have grouped together of some of the blue Aprill pieces. I plan to add more.

A photo with the right spirit! Charles and Jane Aprill, February 1976 – Ft. Lauderdale, Florida – photo Dana Charlton-Zarro

Charles, in a recent email stated “Historically, Jane and I started collecting in the 60’s. We liked all genres. We decided one could not have everything so we decided to try to get the best we could from each group, but in blue. Flasks, medicines, inks, bitters, cures, whiskeys colognes, sodas, sarsaparillas, cathedrals jars. etc. Along the way we were distracted by creamers and snuffs and other “not blue” items.”

“She’s the one who provoked me into being a very serious collector. She went up to Skinners and got Charlie Gardner’s gallon Harrison’s ink and Willington 1/2 gallon amber pickle. She pushed to get Sam Greer’s 1/2 gallon Wynkoop. Much more and the light of my life as well.”

Charles noting the influence of his wife Jane

The attached photo was taken at the 1976 St. Louis Expo – perhaps the greatest bottle show ever – where the Aprills set up a blue bottle display. It was displays like this that made the ’76 Expo a truly significant event – never to be repeated due to its place in time. – Eric McGuire.

Petal jars. 1/2 gallon and two quarts. All “iron” pontils. Some pontiled blue jars not in an auction. – Charles Aprill

A whimsey hat made from a “Boardman Mineral water mold. – Charles Aprill

Left: WYNKOOP’S / KATHARISMIC / SARSAPARILLA / NEW YORK. Right: WYNKOOP’S / KATHARISMIC HONDURAS / SARSAPARILLA. – Charles April

!/2 Gallon and Quart size free blown jars. “open” pontils” – Charles Aprill

I sat in the front row of a small auction house in Bolton, Mass. Early Skinners. The blue fish came up I raised my hand to bid, but it was well over estimate and beyond my imagination. 1972. My understanding is that this was the first American antique bottle to sell for “over a thousand dollars”. I got it from the winner two decades later. I don’t know its history before the Skinner auction. – Charles April

Embossed Cummingham on base, “iron” pontil. – Charles Aprill

There is a nice piece about this flask in the Auction catalog. Item #525. They got it from a Canadian dealer, sight unseen, for approval. Opened the package late one night, on returning from a trip, “weary”. When he saw it, The Judge was “wide awake” and they stayed up several more hours ” washing and admiring” the bottle. – Charles Aprill

Wells, Miller, Provost. Open pontils, 91/2 and 81/2″ specimens – Charles Aprill

The larger are T.K.Finlay, The smaller are John J. Pope. Both embossed N. Orleans or New Orleans. Both have “iron pontils”. I’m taking photos with a “old man” phone. It just doesn’t do justice. – Charles Aprill

Cattell’s Gift Cologne/ Fulton St./Brooklyn. Iron pontil. Next to C. Heimstreet. – Charles Aprill

“C. Heimstreet” and “Liquid Bread”, full labels. – Charles Aprill

Harrison inks, cylinders on left, panels on right. 9 in all. The two small paneled Harrison’s are just fine. Not as common as the cylinders. Mebane had the larger. He never did get a good tiny one. The half gallon is ex: Charles Gardner collection. The three 12 panel inks on the right are scarce. Harrison really did use very pretty bottles – Charles Aprill

Caspers Whiskey next to a Figural Grape – Aprill Collection

We collect blue things, including INKS. They are so tiny and jewel like. – Charles April

Dancing Indian cologne. The blue one is mint, perfect. Jane got this at a Las Vegas show in the late 70’s. The dealer was a western dude covered with Turquoise jewelry (watchband, bracelet, neck piece, belt buckle and more. Provenance unknown. – Charles April

Harrison inks. Right 4 and 5/8 inch cylinder. Left, handles “cup” whimsey, blown in the Harrison ink mold. – Charles Aprill

This Dr. Leriemondie’s is “as dug” in 1973 in New Orleans. Outside washed once. Sapphire blue, round “sand” pontil. – Charles Aprill

This is a J. DUNBAR’S / CORDIAL SCHNAPPS. My only Schnapps. – Charles Aprill

Two blue-green pitchers. Big one is just 3″ tall. Not Pitkin, but pretty. – Charles Aprill

GV-1a., a Lockport glass works product. ex: Paul Richards collection. – Charles Aprill

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Greenbrier TN: Fire destroys over $400,000 in antiques.

Updated 26 June 2012 with Donation Information (see bottom of post)

[PRG: Incoming from multiple sources]

Subject: Tragedy in Tennessee

On Monday, Memorial Day, the 7,000 square foot building owned by Claude Bellar in Greenbrier, TN, burned to the ground. In it was housed Claude’s extensive fruit jar collection (approximately 1,500 fruit jars, no two alike), jar rubber collection, fruit jar boxes, approximately 125 Tennessee whiskey crocks, numerous Tennessee bottles, many of them paper labels, lots of Robertson County and Tennessee paper items, farm tools and other various collections spanning over 60 years.

Also housed in the building was half or more of the items I salvaged from my home in the 2010 flood along with a few pieces of replacement furniture purchased during the last year. Many boxes of my large milk bottle and dairy items collections are gone along with around 150 vintage cow and pastoral pictures (several oil), some dating in the 1800s. Collections of Bristol glass, hand painted enamel glass, art glass, laundry collectibles, and over two hundred vintage kitchen utensils amassed over the past 40 years were lost. Another devastating blow, to say the least.

My travel trailer where I have been living since the flood two years ago, was miraculously spared being only ten feet from the building! The fire department kept flooding that side of the building with water to keep it from the trailer. However, the trailer electricity is lost due to the fire so it is not liveable right now. I have two cats and can only find one of them. I am surrounded by woods so I am praying she is only traumatized and hiding and will surface soon. My two dogs were not affected, for which I am very grateful.

I just wanted to let our friends and fellow collectors in the hobby know about this loss. It is heartbreaking to know that so much of history is now ashes.

Nancy Pennington

See Video of News Report

A Great Idea

PRG: From Steve Ketcham

Hi Ferdinand, I am not sure if you have received this news or not, but it is the kind of event we collectors all fear. I just Spoke with Gene Bradberry about it and suggested perhaps the Federation could organize a fund drive to help Claude and Nancy out a bit. Since Gene is currently dealing with health issues and a garage that was just today struck by lightning, he asked that I get in touch with you about the idea. I am thinking maybe it could be organized via various media such as the FOHBC web site, the two bottle magazines, and Peachridge Glass. I have no experience in matters like this, but I am thinking a bank in their area might be willing to accept the donations and allow them access as needed. I would be happy to contact a local bank to get the ball rolling. Being the good people we are, I feel our bottle collecting community would respond positively.

Your thoughts?

Thanks.

On a happier note, I’m looking forward to Reno!

Steve

U P D A T E

Account information re Claude and Nancy

Hi Steve,

Here is the information you requested for the account. It is the SunTrust Bank in Nashville.

Benefit Account for Claude Bellar and/or Nancy Pennington
Account # 1000144216743
SunTrust Bank
2503 Lebanon Pike
Nashville, TN 37214
Phone: 615-874-3755
Fax: 615-391-0735

We appreciate your doing this. Only fellow collectors can understand the devastation Claude and I both feel. We are sifting through the ashes every afternoon after work to try to recover a few things but most of the items are either so blackened or fragile, it is hard to save much.

Claude lost all of his collections since they were all displayed and had no protection from the fire. A few of my things such as cow creamers survived due to the fact they were packed up in boxes from recovery from the flood in 2010. About 98% of my collections are gone. We had just finished moving about 700 of my milk bottle collection from my house that flooded to store in his building until I find a new home. I found pieces of several of my rarest milk bottles like the Thatcher set and the Chicago Sterilized Milk Co. set. Mostly it is a big glob of melted glass. As best the fire officials can figure, the heat inside that building reached over 1500 degrees. Not much can survive that.

My cat never came home so I can only assume she perished in the fire. I agonize over that every day. She had been with me seven years.

Thank you again for your support. Our bottle collecting family is the best!

Sincerely,

Nancy Pennington

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